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FI With Kids: How Do You Afford Field Trips And Adventures?

In one of my recent posts I answered the question ... so you Moved Abroad: But What About School?  Be sure to read my latest post here.  I dove into many aspects of learning including how our family has embraced Field Trips and Adventures (and other non-traditional learning opportunities).


How do we make those work in our budget?  We often hear ...even in FI (financial independence) or FIRE (financial independence retire early) groups that kids are so expensive.  We would like to mostly disagree.  Yes, we added two more members to our family, but we can definitely make it work (and have fun Field Trips and adventures too).


Let’s look more closely at the numbers.  What is the financial impact for Field Trips and adventures?  How much do they cost?  Don’t they add up?


The good news is there are many free or low cost Field Trips and adventures (for adults or families!).  And of course there are some that cost money (and sometimes quite a bit money), but the cost can be worth it depending on the experience.



Entrance to the Alhambra in Granada, Spain.


Three key strategies for us ... 1) Keep any Field Trips and adventures within our extra spending budget each month (and plan this out as much as possible), and 2) vary the activities each week / month with a mix of mostly free or low cost and some experiences that cost more (if needed).  3) Take advantage of cost savings such as through Memberships or Free / Reduced Rate days and times.


Now I will go through all the experiences I listed on my previous post: Moved Abroad: What About School?  Let’s see how much they really cost.



We were told photos are not allowed in the Alhambra Museum, but this was taken in the building that holds the small museum (Palace of Charles V).



-Alhambra Museum: This is a free museum located on the 1st floor of the Palace of Charles V.  We visited a separate day from our main and first visit to the Alhambra.  This is a fantastic small museum and definitely worth a visit!


We were able to walk to the museum from our home in the Albaicin so transportation was also free.


-Cost: $0



The Alhambra in Granada, Spain.



-Alhambra: Not including our visit to the Alhambra Museum (see above), we’ve been to the Alhambra once so far.  We will definitely be back multiple times since we live in Granada.  Unfortunately as far as we are aware, there are not options for Membership otherwise we would definitely get a Membership.


There are many different options and price points to visit the Alhambra.  For our first visit we chose the General Ticket option which included Alcazaba, Palacios (Palace) Nazaries, Palacio Generalife and Gardens, and Palacio de Carlos V.  Not only was the cost worth it, but I think it was priced more than reasonably for what you were able to see!


Transportation again for us was free since we walked from our neighborhood (Albaicin).


-Cost: 14.85 euros per Adult and Kids Free (For the tickets we chose).  Total Cost was 29.70 euros ($36.24).



Children’s Museum Houston Outdoor Space 



-Children’s Museum Houston: We’ve mentioned before the huge benefit of Family Memberships / Memberships to Museums and other cultural institutions in your area.  Often times the Membership is paid for in just a few visits.  And Memberships and other experiences make great gifts!  With that said, we did have a Membership to the Children’s Museum.


Once we moved into Houston for our unexpected City Schooling time, the Children’s Museum Houston was right next door.  Our transportation was our feet so ... free!


-Family Membership Cost: $135 for a Family of Four (Note, there are different Membership levels).



Market in Plaza Larga




-Farmer’s Market in Granada, Spain: Daily life can definitely be seen as an adventure especially when you move to a new area and maybe even more so when you are in a new country.  Some of those every day experiences are the best experiences.  We’ve definitely seen different fruits and veggies that we’ve never seen before here in Spain.  But even back home in the US, sometimes those every day experiences were a fun adventure...especially for kids.  You can read more about our grocery cost in the link below.


This is less than a 10 minute walk for us so no transportation cost.


-Cost: See more information on one month of groceries in Granada, Spain.



Houston Arboretum 


-Houston Arboretum: When we lived in Houston, we frequently visited the Houston Aboretum for our nature studies or just to visit!  Visiting nature is great for kids (and adults), and it is often free or low cost.  It was mostly free for us to visit the Houston Aboretum and Nature Center with the exception of parking on most days (like many large cities and some parks, there is paid parking to help support the park or city).  Note, the Houston Aboretum (like other parks and nature centers) does have a Membership option that offers perks, and of course you can help support a great institution that way.  If we would have stayed in Houston, I would have considered a Membership.


Incorporating nature into your Field Trips or adventures is a great way to lower costs for activities (plus everyone benefits from being in nature).


Transportation for us required a car so not technically free, but once we moved to Houston only about a 15 to 20 min drive depending on traffic.


-Cost: Less than $5 for Parking (Approximately)



Lab at The Health Museum.  This was not the Cow Eye Lab mentioned below (Houston).




-The Health Museum: We decided to get a Membership at this Museum since we were literally next door to it in Houston for approximately 9 months.  Plus it doesn’t hurt to support your local museums and cultural institutions (and they definitely have needed more support during COVID-19).  They started up Homeschool Labs shortly before we moved to Spain.  You did not need to be Members to participate in the labs.  We were able to participate in one lab before we moved: Cow Eye Dissection.  


I felt like the experience of the lab was worth the cost, and I was right (this time at least!).  There was a 1: 4 teacher to student ratio, and two of the students were our kids.  There is no way they would have had this type of opportunity in a public school at their age (at least not in TX).


Transportation was free since we lived next door in Houston’s Museum District (yes, we were strategic about this move and location).  We were temporarily renting a place during COVID-19 and City Schooling.


-Cost (Cow Eye Dissection Lab): $18.00 per child / $32.40 Total (Slight Membership Discount ...Note, different Membership levels may have different perks and discounts).


Note, our Family Membership was $85.00 total (there are different Membership Levels).



The kids are working in their journals at a cafe in the Holocaust Museum Houston.


-Holocaust Museum Houston: In our previous post, we mentioned seeing a Nelson Mandela exhibition at a local museum in Houston.  The exhibition was at the Holocaust Museum.  For this museum I did not get a Membership.  If we would have been in Houston longer term, I would have considered it.


Transportation was free since we lived nearby in Houston’s Museum District.



-Cost: $19 for Adults (Children are free)



George Floyd Mural in Houston, TX




-George Floyd Mural: As I mentioned in a previous post, when we studied Nelson Mandela we also revisited current events such as the killing of George Floyd (a fellow Houstonian).  I think art (and books!) can be a great way for children (and adults for that matter) to learn about current events and history.


Public art is some of my favorite types of art because it is accessible to all.  Unfortunately there should be no mural of him at all because he should be alive today so I am not trying to make light of that by talking about cost.  But most public art is no charge.


Transportation wasn’t technically free since we did drive to see the murals.


Incorporating public art into your Field Trips / adventures can not only be a great way to lower your cost on activities, but it can also be a different way to learn about history or current events (and more).


-Public Art Cost: No charge.


We loved visiting the McGovern Centennial Gardens rain or shine (Houston).




-McGovern Centennial Gardens: Beautiful city gardens are often (but not always) free or low cost.  The McGovern Gardens are free including parking.  And in my opinion this is one of the best places to visit in Houston.  I may be slightly biased since we lived next door for 8 months or so ...but even before that I really enjoyed visiting the gardens.  Look for some gardens near you as a low cost or free Field Trip!


Again, transportation was free since this was across the street from us in Hermann Park / Houston’s Museum District.  Another tip to save on a Field Trip / adventure cost is to look local!  Do more things local with a mix of possibly further away (since further away usually comes with some type of transportation cost).  Plus it is always nice to get involved in your own neighborhood or community.


-Cost: Free



Community Service in Hermann Park’s Japanese Garden (Houston)




-Community Service in Hermann Park: Community service is a great way to have a free Field Trip experience or adventure while also giving back to your community.  Depending on the age of your children or depending on your community this can be more challenging to find ...but one idea is to try a local park / park system.  I was honestly a little surprised by how much my kids enjoyed it too.


Transportation was free since we lived next to Hermann Park.


-Cost: Free


Archaeological Museum of Granada



-Archaeological Museum of Granada: As you can probably tell I am a big fan of museums and cultural institutions so for the most part I think the fees are worth it (and if you are local the Memberships may be worth it too).  I’ve noticed museum fees in Spain so far seem to be much more reasonable than the US, but I guess that makes sense due to the overall lower cost of living.


Transportation was free since we walked from our neighborhood (Albaicin).


-Cost: $1.50 euros for each Adult / Kids were free.  3 euros total ($3.66).



I always love joining our son at Golf (Timbercreek in Friendswood, TX).



-Golf: In my previous post, I did mention golf.  But I wouldn’t really consider this one for our family as a Field Trip or adventure since our son is an active golfer.  This would be considered more as an on-going sport / passion.  It is difficult to put the cost on this one since back home my Dad would usually pay for a round (9 holes) of golf.  If I just did a bucket of balls for the kids to hit this would typically be less than $10.  I’ll have to revisit this once he receives his clubs and starts playing in Granada (Granada Club de Golf).


-Cost: Unknown at this point, but a bucket of balls is typically less than $10 each.



EcoSchoolers class at Armand Bayou (Houston)




-Armand Bayou: The kids did participate in the Outdoor EcoSchoolers class a few times at Armand Bayou during City Schooling / COVID-19.  These classes were fantastic and obviously a safer option during COVID-19.  I definitely felt they were worth the cost.  They would have been even more affordable if we were members.  This was a little further from us so I didn’t consider a Membership (and plus we had plans to move out of the Houston area).



-Cost: $17 per child / per class so $34 for one class (for both kids).



Albaicin neighborhood of Granada, Spain.



-Moving Abroad to Spain: I would have to sum up the adventure of moving abroad to being priceless (and more complicated than a short paragraph), but you can read more about how we did it here and here.


Also stay tuned.  Erik will recap our May monthly expenses soon.


-Cost: Priceless.


There you have it.  That should cover the Field Trips and adventures I mentioned in my previous post.  It shows a nice variety of the types of Field Trips / adventures we go on.  And as you can see many are free, low cost, or reasonable for what you receive.  Comment below if I missed anything.  What do you think?  How do you fit Field Trips and adventures into your life and budget?  Do you have any tricks or tips?


You can read our last Non-Lucrative Visa post here, and you can read Erik’s previous post here.  And you can even join us on your own FI adventure!


-Tara







Moved Abroad: But What About School?!

Erik recently wrote about his first month of early retirement, and he answered two of the common questions we often hear ...but what are you going to do (aren’t you going to be bored)?  What about money?  You won’t run out?


I am here to answer another common question ... but what about school (for the kids)?



What if “school” was visiting the Alhambra Museum?  Writing or drawing during your visit?




Large fountain at the Alhambra.



But ... what about school?!


The first thing that comes to my mind is ...1) I get the question.  I understand why they are asking it.  But also 2) How much my perspective about learning has changed.  And maybe 3) Our current journey might have a positive impact on others and their ideas around learning.  


Background 


Let’s back up ... prior to the COVID-19 global pandemic I was already reading about, researching, and lurking in social media groups about the idea of World Schooling.  It was possibly in our tentative approximately 5 year plan.  You can read our previous post here.  Being able to slow travel and see the world with the kids seemed like the ultimate learning experience and opportunity for them (and us!).


And then along came COVID-19 and the global pandemic... I started preparing for the possibility of postponing our move to Spain (originally planned for August 2020) and preparing for potentially (and unexpectedly) schooling my children in a non-traditional way for the 2020 - 2021 school year (City Schooling).  I immediately started researching even more.  Lurking in even more groups online anything from Homeschooling to World Schooling to Wild Schooling to Unschooling and so on.  I also started reading more books about different approaches to learning (and one of my favorites being Balanced and Barefoot).


It’s been eye opening learning about all the different perspectives to childhood and childhood “education.”  My goal when we started this unanticipated City School journey in the Fall of 2020 was to escape from my personal biggest complaints with the public school system in the US ... such as inappropriate expectations for their ages, standardized tests, worksheets, too much desk work, not enough time outside / moving / in nature, long days / homework ... to name a few.  Oh, and not enough of science / history / the arts / hands-on experiences, etc.  (I guess I can definitely name more than just a few).  This is by no means targeted towards educators for the most part (I was a public school educator for 11 years!).  These are systematic problems with public schools in the US.  I say the US because that is our experience.


Don’t get me wrong... I can definitely go on and on about my kids and positive experiences in both preschool (church / private) and their elementary school (and how much I love their teachers).  Like I’ve mentioned before, we probably wouldn’t even be in Spain right now if it wasn’t for their exceptional experience in Dual Language at our school.  But this post is about the benefits of a learning experience outside of the traditional school system.


City Schooling to World Schooling 


How has our City School experience (and now transitioned into World School) gone so far?  Honestly, much better than I thought it would go.  The kids transitioned much more easily than I envisioned (and probably better than I did at first).  We fell into a nice flexible routine in Houston and spent much of our time outside of home ...in nature and / or on Field Trips.  We were thrown off some by the holidays and working on our Visas / move, but we now we have nice flexible routine again in Granada, Spain as we wrap up the year and look ahead to different learning experiences this summer.  I’ve tried to play on my strengths - Field Trips / adventures (and connecting that to book work / work at home).  Due to COVID-19, we also unexpectedly discovered 1000 Hours Outside and embraced nature.  And this will be a life-long change and benefit for our family.  I also made play and choice a priority, created a lot of my own “lessons”, let the kids and their interests guide us (our youngest has really developed a love and interest in snakes (thanks in part to our snake experiences at the Houston Arboretum and Snake Discovery on YouTube) which started August 2020), and finally yes, we did purchase some awesome resources too (hello, Beast Academy for math!).


I think the very common societal idea that a traditional school setting is the best setting for every child is definitely a misnomer.  (And yes, I understand that having the choice to do otherwise is a privileged choice though).


But to go back to the question ...what about school?  I think school is only ONE part of childhood (whatever school may be for that child).  One of the most important things about childhood is CHILDHOOD, and often school interferes with just that (in my opinion or personal experience).


What if “school” was ...


What if “school” (or learning) was reading about the history of the Alhambra and then visiting the Alhambra in person.



A photo from our recent Field Trip to the Alhambra.  We read history about the Alhambra prior to our visit.



What if “school” was actively engaging in the US Presidential Election Day in 2020 ...and involves practicing your writing skills by writing a letter to the first female Vice President, Madame Vice President Kamala Harris.


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Writing in Houston’s McGovern Gardens.



What if you could choose the math curriculum you think is best for your family in your “school” and balance that with hands-on or real world math skills ..?  Such as through hands-on math activities at a Children’s Museum or real world experiences like learning about Euros and handling money at a market?



Helping at the market in Plaza Larga (Granada’s Albaicin neighborhood).



What if “school” was science lessons IN nature ... or small group labs (cow eye dissection) at a local museum?



We loved our nature walks and studies at the Houston Aboretum.



Cow eye dissection lab at The Health Museum in Houston.



What if “school” was learning about history and current events by studying Nelson Mandela at home, visiting a local museum exhibition about his life, and learning to make connections to present day (such as the Black Lives Matter movement)?  (And unexpectedly being asked to appear on a local news segment about the Nelson Mandela exhibition).



George Floyd Mural in Houston, TX.



What if “school” involved being able to fully participate in your local community by getting to know your neighbors such as ones that work at a local garden across the street from you?



We loved the McGovern Centennial Gardens in Houston.  We met now life long friends and unexpected teachers for the kids (like Master Gardeners) during our City School adventure.  On this day (photo above) one of the gardeners offered the kids fresh watermelon from the Family Garden.




We especially loved rainy days in the McGovern Gardens.



What if “school” is a day or half a day or even a few hours engaged in service in your community?



We enjoyed a more COVID-19 safe outdoor volunteer experience this “school year” in Hermann Park (Houston).



What if “school” was travel?  What if you had the opportunity (FIRE!) to learn a language and culture (for us Spanish and Spain) immersed in that language and culture?



Granada, Spain



What if you could put the arts and other areas that are considered extras / extra curricular activities at the center of your “school” through weekly trips to art museums (or other art experiences)?  Or what if your “school” had more time to pursue passions and interests such as weekly trips to the golf course (or the time to try new things!).  



Archeological Museum in Granada, Spain


These were all real experiences for us this “school year.”  Is everything always perfect and all ideal Field Trips?  No, of course not.  Life is not perfect, but I could not have dreamed of how many positive learning experiences we did have despite a really difficult year with Covid-19.


Even if you believe a traditional school setting is the best option for your family (or maybe in many cases the only option), I encourage you (and myself to continue to!) open our minds about different learning experiences during childhood or even young adulthood (or adulthood!).


But ...What About All Those Negatives (Homeschool)!?!


I still often hear (and even in some cases thought myself) the “negatives.”  The most common ones ...but 1) what about socialization!?!  2) Or hah!  They won’t listen to ME!  Not like they listen to their teachers ...and maybe to go along with that 3) What do I know about teaching them?  And finally 4) But they need to know XYZ by this age / grade, right?  What if they fall behind?


Honestly the only one above that I was somewhat concerned about was number 2.  Let’s go to number 1 first.  The idea that kids can’t be social outside of a traditional school system is a complete misnomer to me (of course this somewhat depends on the family situation and effort you put into it).  Now 2020 ...and into 2021 is a lot different obviously due to Covid-19, but I would argue under normal circumstances social activities and opportunities are even greater if you were able to school on your own.  My kids had structured and unstructured learning and playing opportunities throughout our City School and World Schooling year with other children their age, of various ages, and even adults.  They met new friends and saw old friends. I think like a lot of things ...it is what you make it.  Just because a child is in a traditional school setting doesn’t mean they are getting ample time to talk or play with others.


They won’t listen to me as much as they would listen to others.  For the most part this went MUCH better than I had initially envisioned.  I think given the right setting and situation children are naturally curious and WANT to learn.  Are my own personal children going to act the same as they would with a classroom teacher?  No, of course not.  I am their parent, and they are most comfortable with me (in fact I’ve had my children already as students since I was their art teacher!).  But I think that is okay.  And I think there are some ways around this to make the situation better for all involved.  My strategies included learning outside of home in public (take your book work with you!).  My kids are much less likely to act foolish in front of others versus at home!  Also balance their time learning with you by also learning with others ...either in structured ways (hello, outdoor adventures at Armand Bayou in Houston) to unexpected learning opportunities like when the master gardeners gave us lessons at McGovern Gardens Family Garden.


What do I know about teaching them?  For anyone that asks this ...you are their parent.  You know what is best for them!  You guided them prior to age 5 and yes, educated them on life then ...why aren’t you their best teacher now?  And for anything you feel like you need help on ...maybe learn WITH them, or yes, you can include other teachers or guides.  For example, my kids did (free) workshops with the Children’s Museum Houston for Tinkercad.  I know nothing about Tinkercad, but of course they can learn from others too.


And finally number 4 ... But they need to know XYZ by this age / grade, right?  What if they fall behind?  Even after being a public school educator for 11 years, this one still irks me.  I think (for the most part) there aren’t necessarily specifics they MUST know by a certain age or grade ...and there is no behind.  It is all arbitrary.  Kids aren’t all the same nor should their education be all the same.  They have different strengths and areas of growth.  They have different interests and talents.  They come from different family situations and from different neighborhoods.  For us instead of focusing on what they need to know by this age or grade...or worrying about falling behind ...I’ve tried to focus on a love of learning through our experiences each week while knowing our path will lead them to where they need to be as individuals.


Looking Ahead For Our Family


But despite everything I said above we do plan (or are in the process of) enrolling them in school next year.  What!?  Why?


Homeschooling is technically not legal per se in Spain.  And another reason... I think the best way to immerse them in the language and culture is through school.  (Luckily I think we found a school that is going to be fantastic for them and does things differently than we were use to in the US ...for example, embracing school outside and in nature).


What have I / we enjoyed the most about schooling on our own?  What will we miss as the kids head back to traditional school next year?


-Time.  Our time together.  This was also a huge reason why we took the path to FIRE.  Although as far as “losing” time with my kids, we had a pretty ideal situation.  I was a teacher, and for their baby and preschool years they were with Grandparents when I was at work (can’t beat family!  Well, for our situation at least).  And when they moved on to elementary school, they were at school WITH me.  But teaching is definitely an exhausting profession, and most of my time outside of school was spent recovering from teaching which is not an ideal use of time.  Luckily their school in Spain will be less time than we did in TX (9 am - 2 pm in Spain.  We were often at school together in Texas from 7:15 am until at least 3:45 pm ...often longer hours depending on my work that day or our schedule.  Leaving at 5 pm or later wasn’t uncommon for us).


-Flexibility.  You really can’t beat being able to go on daily adventures and Field Trips versus revolving around a school schedule or only on weekends.  We also currently have the flexibility to travel since our life doesn’t revolve around the school calendar (for example we are taking a weekday beach trip in May).  We hope to travel even more as Covid-19 improves.  I will never hesitate to take them out of school (within reason) though; I think outside of classroom experiences take importance over inside of the classroom experiences for the most part.


-Their own paths.  This may fall under time and flexibility too.  It’s nice right now to be able to explore their own passions and interests.  We were able to golf every week on the weekdays for my son.  We set out to read a lot of books on snakes and explore them at the Houston Arboretum with my daughter.  (Those are just two examples).  Sure you can try to explore passions and interests even when you are in a traditional school system, but no one can argue there is definitely more time and flexibility to do so if you aren’t in traditional school.


-1:2 Teacher Ratio ... in our family.  And now that Erik is retired, 2:2 especially since he likes helping with math.  Even in elite private schools you can’t get that kind of attention.  Kids are not all the same ...so I don’t personally think generalized and standardized learning for a group of children the same age is the best approach.  But when you have a classroom full of kids and one teacher, the teacher has to make the best of the situation.


-Play / Active Outdoor Play / Nature: Because of COVID ...and their “home learning” this year ...they’ve probably had more time (there’s that word again!  Time!) than ever before to play, actively play outdoors, be outdoors, and be in nature.  And I think all of those things should be at the top of a list or towards the top of a list for important aspects of childhood.  But unfortunately most of those areas are missing from US public schools now.  The good news is their school next year in Spain seems to place a high importance on the outdoors and nature.  I am not sure about the play aspect yet.


To come back to the question, “what about school?!,” my short answer is ...what about school?  Let’s reframe the idea or importance of traditional school.


And as we look ahead to traditional schooling next year, I would like to try to balance some of our World Schooling best practices with a new adventure in a Spanish school.  Time will tell.  So what has the process been like to get them enrolled in school?  Stay tuned for a future post as we are still working through the process.



Granada, Spain



What do you think?  What does school mean to you?  Would you embark on a City School or World School journey?  What are your perspectives on education?  Comment below!


Read Erik’s latest post here.  Embark on your own FI journey with us here.


-Tara




Early Retired And Obtained Our Visas To Spain: How Did We Do It?

It’s been a while.  Between City Schooling and applying for our Non-Lucrative Visa to Spain ... that was nearly 90% of my time (or more!).


But wait ... let’s back up.  We are both now officially early retired (financially independent)!  I finished up teaching during the 2019 - 2020 school year, and Erik officially resigned (but is still finishing up some time with his company).


So how did we do it?  The short story ... 1) Pay off all debt (which we did from 2013 - 2015).  2) Figure out your FI number within the 4% rule.  3) Budget and cut down expenses (and stick with it!).   4) Invest, invest, invest ... and achieve a high savings rate.  5) Achieve your FI number and enjoy FIRE (this is where we are at!).


So we FIREd (financial independence retire early)!  Now what?  Our original plan was to obtain a Non-Lucrative Visa and move to Spain (for at least one year ... or more!) in August 2020, but then as we all know COVID-19 happened.  We decided to temporarily move to Houston (City School) and delay our move to Spain until Spring 2021 (we were aiming for April 1).  Now our second bit of exciting news is we obtained our Non-Lucrative Visa (and this was NOT an easy or stress free task)!  






So how did we obtain a Non-Lucrative Visa?  I wrote a post about the Non-Lucrative Visas (NLV) prior, but after now almost completely going through the process, I definitely need to provide some updates.  Even without a pandemic obtaining a NLV is a very detailed and challenging process ... and with a pandemic even more challenging.  We also heard that the Consulate of Spain in Houston is one of the most challenging Consulates to go through.  Oddly enough all of the Consulates operate somewhat differently and have a different list for the NLV so be sure to check your Consulate for more information.


Note, we gathered our information from approximately late September 2020 - February 2021 (longer time frame due to significant COVID-19 delays ... I will get to that).  I could not have completed this process without the help of on-line social media groups and making connections with other expats that previously went through or are going through the same process.  Thank you!


Prior to COVID-19, step 1 would be to obtain a NLV Visa appointment on the Consulate of Spain in Houston’s website.  Due to COVID-19 they (temporarily?) stopped doing that.  Honestly I think some of the changes they made due to COVID-19 made the process easier.  Instead I jumped right into gathering documents.


Gather all necessary documents for the Visa within a specific 90 day time period.


The Consulate of Spain in Houston lists the following on their website for the NLV:


ORIGINAL and ONE PHOTOCOPY of each of the following items.  Note, I was told when researching the NLV to never remove staples from documents, and if a document is in color be sure to provide it in color (along with the copies in color).  (I’m not sure the truth or need behind the second statement of in color, but it can’t hurt?!).


1) National Visa Application Form: It must be signed and filled out correctly.


This is the form that you will also attach a passport photo to.  Be sure to fill this out with “No Current Profession” in that appropriate space.  Or at least, that is what we had to do.  I just filled these in by hand (I filled in all of the forms in by hand).


I completed a form for each of us (four forms total).


$ 0 ... well except printing it out myself and making copies.


2) Passport: Valid for a minimum of 1 year, with at least two consecutive blank pages to affix the visa. Your passport will remain at the Consulate.


This one is pretty straight forward.  Check the expiration dates and space for each passport (of course all four of us needed a passport).


$ 0 ... as in we already had our passports completed for previous trips.


3) ID: Proof of residency in one of the States under our jurisdiction: US Driver’s license or US State ID.  Non-US Citizens: Proof of legal residence in the US: resident alien card, valid US visa. 


Erik and I used our Drivers License (DL) for these.  Be sure to check your expiration dates.  Also the address on our DL matched the address we used on the forms.  The children didn’t need a proof of residency.


$ 0 ... we already had our DL current.


4) Two recent passport-sized photos: White background, 2x2 in, glued to the applications.


We got these done at a local Walgreens.  I wasn’t sure if the second passport photo was needed.  I asked at our appointment, and they took the second photo (I assume for the Visa photo).


$ 60 Total for 4 People (It looks like the Walgreens website says $14.99 per person.  You receive 2 passport photos.  There are probably some more affordable options, but this is a convenient option).


5) Formal petition to apply for the Visa: with a brief explanation of your professional background. Also why did you decide to go to live in Spain and what are you planning to do while you reside there. Finally, how long are you planning to stay and any other reasons you would like to explain to support your application.


This one is basically a letter.  After submitting our documents via email once we had all of them gathered, I needed to adjust my letter.  I wasn’t too surprised because of what I heard from others, but I wanted the original letter to be brief and only answer the questions they mentioned above.  (If I went above and beyond that may result in even more questions).


After they reviewed the letter (via email), I made some changes specifically stating that Erik and I would not be working while in Spain on the NLV.  I also put in more specific information on where the kids would go to school.


I also had this translated (certified translator) which wasn’t required on the list, but I heard through the grapevine that they may want that.  In fact, I had it translated twice since we needed to make adjustments after the initial review.


I found someone in the Houston area that was on the Consulate of Spain’s list.  I heard that you need to use someone from this list.  Where do you find the list?  Good question, it isn’t that easy to find.  Here is one from 2021.  I found a fantastic translator in the Houston area on the list.  If you would like her contact information, please contact me.  Cost?  I will go into an estimate of translations later.  This basically depends on the translator, number of pages, number of words, etc.


$ 0 ... Not including certified translator cost.


EXTRA: After reviewing out documents via email, they also asked for a sworn affidavit stating that we would not be working while in Spain on the NLV.  Wait ... what?  Again, I wasn’t too shocked about this since I heard through the grapevine others had to do this too.  I ended up Googling Sworn Affidavit.  I wrote a very simple sworn affidavit for both of us (one sworn affidavit) based on a few Google examples.  We then took this to UPS where they offer a notary service (therefore making it a sworn affidavit).  Finally, I did get a certified translation for this document (even though they didn’t ask me to).  I figured it couldn’t hurt.


$ 10 Approximately ... I can’t remember the exact cost, but it was minimal (not including the certified translator cost).


6) House property/leasing or renting contract in Spain: 


- If you have a property in Spain you need to provide the title deed of property.


- In case of leasing or renting contract you must provide the contract minimum for one year together with the copy of the landlord’s ID and copy of title deed of property or property certificate.


I was a little nervous that they wouldn’t be happy with what we provided for housing, but they didn’t say anything.  We provided a one year rental contract (the landlord provided this in Spanish) that we signed and the landlord signed.  The landlord also provided us with two forms (images) of ID and a copy of the title deed of property.


Securing housing can definitely be a stressful part of the NLV process, but luckily for us this went fairly smoothly.  We initially found our apartment on Airbnb.  Our landlord has been fantastic!  Due to COVID-19 and making it easier for both of us, we decided to do a lease instead of going through Airbnb.


I just had two color copies of this for the entire family (one “original” and one copy).  (I didn’t receive a hard copy original from Spain ... a digital print out worked fine).


$ 0 ... for copies of the 1) Leasing Contract, 2) Landlord’s ID, and 3) Title Deed.


However, we did pay a month deposit to secure the apartment (700 euros).


7) Proof of sufficient funds:


For Non lucrative Visa: You must provide last-three-month bank statements of your checking or savings account. The minimum amount required (2021) is 33,080$ plus 8,272$ per each additional family member.


For Retirement Visa: Proof of enough periodic income, such as proof of receiving a monthly pension or annuity minimum annual amount required (2021) is 33,080$ plus 8,272$ per each additional family member. In addition, you can also provide last-three-month bank statements of your checking or savings account.


All you need for this one is to print out the most recent 3 months of bank statements for your checking or savings account (Non-Lucrative Visa).  It is my understanding that proving investments will not work for this (Non-Lucrative Visa).


We needed to show about $57,896 in our bank account for the NLV which was no problem since we’ve been working to build up that cash cushion.


I just had two color copies of this for the entire family (one “original” and one copy).


$ 0 ... well, to download and print out bank statements.


8) Background check*: issued by the US Department of Justice – Federal Bureau of Investigation not older than 3 months. It must be legalized with the Apostille of The Hague. Both documents must be translated by a certified translator. (Not for minors under 18 years old).


You must also get background checks from the countries where you have resided during the past 5 years legalized with the Apostille of The Hague. Both documents must be translated by a certified translator.


I would take care of this one first (and anything else that needs an Apostille and / or certified translation).  


First, you need to go to the FBI website: Identity History Summary Checks.  We completed it by doing the electronically submit your request directly to the FBI.  Follow their directions exactly under “How To Submit A Request.”  Basically you will fill out a form, submit payment, and get a confirmation email back (please see website to follow instructions exactly).


$ 18 Each = $ 36 Total


Your next step is to go somewhere to get your fingerprints done.  This part can get a little confusing since there are different fingerprints you can get ... and also some processes may be faster.  You can look into local Post Offices that issue fingerprints (see the FBI website list), or you can look into a local fingerprint place that can help you.  We did the latter, and we got ink fingerprint cards done (in fact, we did it 3 times because once we stopped the process because of COVID-19... and another time we got them done as a back up since the Apostille in DC was taking so long).  If you are in the Houston area, we used Greater Houston Fingerprints in Pearland.  They were fantastic to work with.


$ 25 Per Card for Ink Fingerprints (2 Cards Per Person) = Approximately $ 100 Total


We then mailed the hard copy of the ink fingerprints to the FBI with the confirmation email (see this link for more detailed information).  Always follow an organization’s instructions for mailing documents, but I highly recommend using USPS overnight with tracking as much as possible (or at least priority or express mail).  (Or other mail options if allowed).


Their turnaround time when we did this was 2 - 3 weeks or less.  It was a fairly quick process.  Note, there are probably some quicker routes for example the live scan fingerprints or using a service to assist you with the FBI Background Check / Apostille.


Once you receive the FBI results back, you need to mail them ASAP to The Office of Authentications in DC - U.S. Department of State.  This process took us the longest due to significant delays because of COVID-19 (it took approximately 12 - 13 weeks, but luckily the Consulate of Spain in Houston was understanding about the delays.  This was definitely the most stressful part of the process because of the delays).  Follow their instructions exactly for submitting your FBI Background check to receive the Apostille.  When we completed it I mailed in the two FBI background checks, filled out the form, included payment, and included a self addressed pre-paid stamped envelope.  I used the USPS flat rate priority envelope.  Make sure to get tracking!  I used a regular large USPS envelope that they had in the Post Office for purchase to fit / mail everything, but you may consider faster options.  Be sure to get tracking!


$ 8 per document = $ 16 Total For Us (Not including the extra times we went through this process).


$ 15 approximately at this Post Office (USPS Flat Rate Pre-Paid Priority Envelope and a larger envelope to put everything in).


Once you get your FBI Background check back with the Apostille (don’t remove any staples!), you must get a certified translation. 


This one is definitely a multi-step process!  We only needed this for the adults (2 total).


Multi-Steps:


1) Identity History Summary Online


2) Fingerprints In Person (This link was the service we used in Pearland, TX.)


3) Send Fingerprints to the FBI


4) Receive the FBI Background Check Back ... send to The Office of Authentications in DC for the Apostille


5) Receive the FBI Background Check and Apostille Back ... Obtain Certified Translations!  Whew.


9. Medical Certificate*: A doctor’s recent statement (not older than 3 months) signed by an M.D. with doctor’s or medical center’s letterhead. It must be an original certificate with doctor ́s ink signature and also indicating the following: “the interested does not suffer from any of the diseases that may have serious public health repercussions in accordance with the provisions of the 2005 International Health Regulations”.


There is a form that your doctor can follow in both English and Spanish.  If they are able to do this correctly, then you will not need a certified translation.  Ours did not, so we did get a certified translation for all 4 letters.


Erik and I did get a wellness / physical prior to getting the letter.  Make sure your doctor’s office follows the directions EXACTLY.  Make sure they sign the letters with ink (not digitally).  I later picked up the letters (hard copy) in person.


I called our pediatrician, but since the kids were up-to-date on their wellness exam / vaccines our doctor’s office did not ask to see them prior to issuing the letter (this may have also been due to COVID-19 ..avoiding unnecessary trips to the doctor).  Our pediatrician’s office didn’t follow the words / instructions exactly, so I did call back and request new letters which they were very kind about and fixed quickly.  Again, I picked these hard copies up in person.


$ 0 (Unless you count any co-payment for a doctor’s visit). 


10. Proof of international medical insurance: (travel insurance will not be accepted) Letter by a health insurance company authorized to operate in Spain. It must include the following coverage: Emergency medical cover, sickness and accident, hospital in-outpatient, general practitioners & specialists, prescript medicine and repatriation.


This process was sort of overwhelming to us at first.  But after gaining help (virtually) from other expats that went through or were also going through the process, that really helped.  It is my understanding that two of the most popular insurance carriers for expats are Sanitas and Adeslas.  We found that Sanitas seemed to have waiting periods, and it was also slightly more expensive.  An expat recommended recommended we work with the insurance agent, Carlos, who was familiar with the Non-Lucrative Visa and what was needed for the medical insurance requirement.  We recommend working with him, and we went with Adeslas.  You can reach Carlos here.  Our medical insurance covered everything required and dental and world wide coverage.  Carlos can also help walk you through filling out the forms properly.


We paid up front for the entire year (I believe this is the only way you can purchase it).  Two concerns we had were a start date (which was dependent on obtaining the NLV) and a refund if the Visa was denied.  We picked an April 1 start date, and they were flexible on moving that if needed.  If the NLV Visa was denied, we would have needed just written confirmation from the Consulate in order to receive a refund.


I just had two color copies of the insurance paperwork for all 4 of us.


$ 3,300 approximately for 4 People Total. 


11. Authorization form M790 C052*: ̈Autorización de residencia ̈. Only available in Spanish.


I found the Frugal Vagabond blog helpful for a lot of information about the Non-Lucrative Visa, but also it had some helpful information for filling out forms.  Failing that, I did use Google Translate and asked other expats in Spain or those going through the process.


Note, at our in person meeting at the Consulate of Spain in Houston, they did have me change dates on some forms to the date of the appointment.  You may want to ask your Consulate about that for each form.


Yes, I did have all of the forms filled out for each one of us (4 total).  I wasn’t sure if this was needed, but I was never told otherwise.


$ 0


12. Form EX-01*:  ̈Solicitud de autorización administrativa ̈: Signed and filled out in print. Only available in Spanish.


See above on number 11.


$ 0


13. Visa Fee*: Money Order only, including the Non Lucrative Residence visa fee along with the Authorization for Residence fee.


This link provides the current Visa fees for the Consulate of Spain in Houston.  I did ask the Consulate, and they said, yes, I could do one money order for the entire Visa fees.  I purchased our money order at our local Post Office.


$ 612 Total for 4 People 


14. USPS Priority or Express Mail: pre-paid, self-addressed and with a tracking number.


The Consulate of Spain in Houston asked me to bring 4 total so one for each of us.  Make sure they are pre-paid, with tracking, correctly addressed.  I recommend you go with the safest option possible.  One of our Visa packages was accidentally sent to Puerto Rico, but after a week we eventually got it back.  (If you have issues with the USPS, I recommend doing their inquiry on their website right away.  I filed one in the evening, and I heard from someone the next AM.  You can also contact your Senator’s office and ask for help with the USPS).  That was an extremely stressful week, but luckily we got it back!


I purchased the flat rate priority envelopes.  Be sure to sign up on the USPS website to get tracking notifications via text and email.


$ 8 each so approximately $ 32 Total 


15. Postal Delivery Authorization*: Duly filled out and signed.


Once you get your USPS Priority or Express Mail pre-paid envelopes (for us - 4 of them), print out the appropriate number of sheets and fill this out.


$ 0


SPOUSE:


16. Non-Lucrative / Retirement Requirements.


I completed all of the same requirements as above that I did for Erik with the exception of the items that apply to all of us (for example: bank statements).  If it was going to be the exact same for all of us, I just included that original and copied paperwork behind Erik’s application.  This seemed to work with our Consulate.


17. Marriage Certificate (not older than 3 months) authenticated with the Apostille of The Hague*.  Both documents must be translated by a certified translator.


Once I figured out where to get this, it was a fairly simple process.  In Texas (it is my understanding) you contact your County Clerk in the County that your were married to obtain this document.  We were married in Harris County (Houston), so I went to this website: Harris County Clerk.  I requested a certified copy via this form (I actually did this 2 or 3 times due to COVID-19 and significant Apostille delays in DC).  I sent it in a few different ways, but the quickest way is email.  Their turnaround time was pretty quick.


$ 6


Once you receive back your certified copy of your marriage license, you need to mail this to your STATE (not DC) for the Apostille.  For us this was in Austin.  If you are using Texas, go to this website for more detailed information.  Here is the payment form.  Here is the request for Official Apostille form.


Follow all of the directions on that website / the forms exactly.  For us basically that included a self-address stamped USPS flat rate priority envelope, the marriage license, all necessary forms filled out correctly, and the payment.


$ 8 approximately for a USPS self addressed flat rate priority envelope 


$ 5 approximately (or less) for a USPS Regular Brown Envelope (be sure to get tracking ... you can also use a quicker route - priority, express, overnight).


$ 15 for One Marriage License Apostille


Once you receive this back, you will need to get a certified translation.  I did include all of this paperwork with my Visa documents / application (not behind Erik’s).


MINORS:


18. Non-Lucrative / Retirement Requirements.


I completed all of the same requirements as above that I did for Erik with the exception of the items that apply to all of us (for example: bank statements).  If it was going to be the exact same for all of us, I just included that original and copied paperwork behind Erik’s application.  This seemed to work with our Consulate.


Note, a few items don’t pertain to minors (for example: FBI Background Check).


19. Birth certificate (not older than 3 months) authenticated with the Apostille of The Hague*. Both documents must be translated by a certified translator.


At first this was sort of confusing about where I should purchase this since there seemed to be several different options (and again I went through this process 2 - 3 times times because of COVID-19 and delays).  Luckily once I figured it out, it was a pretty simple process, and I was able to pick up the birth certificates the next day.  Both of our kids were born in Harris County (Houston).  This was the website I used for Harris County, and I was able to pick up the birth certificates the next day.  There are some cheaper options available, but this was just fast and easy.


$ 23 per Birth Certificate + $ 15 Same Day Pick Up (Approximately $ 76 Total For 2 Kids)


$ 5 (Approximately) Or Less For Parking (To Pick Up Birth Certificates)


Once you receive this back, you need to go through the same process above as the Marriage License (State Apostille).  Yes, you can probably save some money by mailing them all together.  For the sake of estimates, let’s say I mailed these separately (again, I actually did this 2 - 3 times because of COVID-19 and delays).


Once you receive back your birth certificates, you need to mail this to your STATE (not DC) for the Apostille.  For us this was in Austin.  If you are using Texas, go to this website for more detailed information.  Here is the payment form.  Here is the request for Official Apostille form.


Follow all of the directions on that website / the forms exactly.  For us basically that included a self-address stamped USPS flat rate priority envelope, the birth certificates, all necessary forms filled out correctly, and the payment.


$ 8 approximately for a USPS self addressed flat rate priority envelope. 


$ 5 approximately (or less) for a USPS Regular Brown Envelope (be sure to get tracking ... you can also use a quicker route - priority, express, overnight).


$ 15 for Each Birth Certificate ($ 30 Total).


Once you receive this back, you will need to get a certified translation.  Each child had their own birth certificate documents within their own documents for the purpose of submitting to the Consulate.


Certified Translations


What did we get a certified translation for?


FBI Background Check / DC Apostille (x 2 Adults)


Marriage License / State Apostille


Birth Certificate / State Apostille (x 2 Children)


4 Medical Letters (2 Adults / 2 Children)


Formal Petition (Letter): I don’t know that this was necessary, but I heard we should do it (so I did).


Sworn Affidavit: I wasn’t sure if this was necessary either (certified translation), but I got it anyways.


How much did it cost?  Let’s just give an estimate of approximately $300.  Again, we had to do some things more than once due to changes or delays.  I also wasn’t sure if some of it was necessary (like the letter of intent), but I thought it couldn’t hurt.  Your document cost may depend on your certified translator, number of pages, number of words.  Let me know if you would like my contact!  She was fantastic to work with.


How did the process work?  Once I found our certified translator I got in touch to see if she would be able to help.  Once I had the documents, I emailed her photos of the documents that needed translations (scans would probably be even clearer, but I didn’t have easy access to a scanner).  When she was finished, I submitted payment and picked them up in person since she was local (if you aren’t local I assume you would work out the best way to mail them safely because you do need the original / hard copies).


You have everything for the NLV.  Now what?  Our Consulate requested everything via email due to COVID-19 before scheduling an appointment.  My next goal was to make sure everything was scanned / or I had a clear picture of it.  I asked the Consulate how they preferred to receive the documents, but I didn’t exactly get a straight answer.  I decided to do 4 separate PDF files so each individual had their own file.  Erik’s file had his documents and the documents that pertained to the whole family (for example housing and bank statements) so his file was the largest.  I put the files in the same order as their Non-Lucrative Visa sheet.  My file had my documents plus the marriage license (in the order of the Non-Lucrative Visa sheet).  The kids had their files (plus of course their birth certificates).  How did I order the documents that needed Spanish translation?


Original English Document


Certified Translation


Translator’s Stamped Page


English Document Copy with Translator’s Stamp


I wasn’t really sure if this order was “correct,” but they didn’t say anything about the way that I ordered the documents.


Digital Files


How did I put everything together digitally?  Some people may be super savvy about this ... I didn’t feel like I was.  I ended up downloading an app that I paid for, but it was well worth the money.  It was mostly pretty user friendly.  The app is called PDF Expert.


After I put the four files together, I double and tripled checked the documents and the order.  Then I sent them into the Consulate using at least 3 separate emails because of the file size.


$50 / Year for PDF Expert ... there are also some monthly options.  I went with monthly at $10 / month.


Copies


What about COPIES?  Remember the Consulate wants originals of all documents and the copies.


I double and triple checked all of our files, and then I took them to a local small business copy place (Copy Doctor in Houston).  I’m not sure if it was true, but I heard a rumor that any items in color - they wanted in color.  I thought it would be easier on me (not necessarily cheaper) to just copy everything in color.  I copied them myself on their machines so that the documents wouldn’t be messed up or put out of order.


$ 60 approximately ... I think the guy actually kind of felt bad for me (it was a LOT to copy), and he did take some off of my total.


Submitting Documents


Then what?  It took less than a week to hear back via email from the Consulate.  They had a few fairly minor questions / concerns / corrections that we fixed through the weekend (including adding in a sworn affidavit and certified translation).  By Monday (when the severe winter storm hit Houston), I emailed in the revised documents.  I wasn’t sure how they wanted the revised documents so I emailed the revised documents separately, AND I fixed the individual files with the revised documents (as applicable).  Houston was pretty much shut down that entire week due to power outages and water issues and so on... but I heard back from the Consulate by Tuesday of the next week.  We had an in person appointment by that Friday of that week!


In Person Appointment


This was really stressful (for me!) leading up to this appointment.  All four of us needed to be there, and they asked us to wear masks and gloves.  I double and triple checked our documents again, and I got 2 file folders for each of us.  One file folder was for the original documents.  The other file folder was for the copies.  I labeled each file folder with our complete name and either originals or copies.  They seemed to appreciate my organization at the appointment.  I also made sure to bring all four of our passports (they keep these during the Visa process), and Erik and I made sure to bring our drivers license.  I also brought our money order, and the extra passport photos (remember they want 2 for each person).  They gave us four separate times for our Visa appointments, but really it was just one appointment.  The whole process took 2 hours or less.  They didn’t really ask us any questions.  They did say hello to the kids and commented on their good behavior!  I had a few minor corrections on the forms, and there is one other original document they wanted.  We quickly fixed everything that same day.  They also went over COVID-19 protocols for getting to Spain.


Visa Approval 


At the appointment they told us it would be approximately four weeks to hear back regarding the approval for our Non-Lucrative Visas.  We were told the documents go to Madrid for approval (I am assuming digitally).  I was shocked we heard back in one week that our Visa was approved!  They called me (I missed their call) and emailed me.  They asked for our proposed entry date into Spain, and they said once they received that date it would take 2 - 3 days to process the Visa.  We received 3 of the 4 Visas by Saturday of that week (mailed by Friday).  One took a detour to Puerto Rico unfortunately (mistake by the USPS), but we were able to get that back within a (very stressful) week.  Each package had our Passport / Visa and original documents.


So there you have it... that’s how you can obtain a Non-Lucrative Visa via the Consulate of Spain in Houston!  Whew.  There is a lot more angst and maybe even more details that went into it, but I tried to shorten the process as much as possible.  Contact me with any specific questions, and I can try to help ... but remember every Consulate and situation is different.


We aren’t done yet (there are more things we need to do once we arrive in Spain), but I think (or hope) some of the hardest parts of the Visa process are now behind us.  We are finally almost ready to Take Flight!


What do you think?  Interested in financial independence?  Retiring early?  Obtaining a Visa?  Need some assistance with the financial part?  Let us know.


-Tara


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